Heating e-liquid components

[Fiddy]

@GameChanger

This stuff has become like a religion

I better get baptized I guess…lol

@GameChanger

here at VC people can disagree and remain respectful and very likely friends like so many are here. I

The main reason I crept here …

@GameChanger

someone wants to say x chemical combined with y will lose its potency when subjected to z temp. I could verify that

Agreed

@GameChanger

Using heat the wrong way could cause flavor loss

That I what I meant , plus I didn’t read entire thread , until after we interacted …one of my downfalls on forums is skimming then seeing something and not reading prior responses…Oh boy do I need to work on that

@GameChanger

60 C is very low.

Now knowing we were refering to a certain temp and the GC I can agree completely with this idea

Hey im all for learning if I can be educated and proved wrong no problem …

You and your product have my full support , and admiration…

[Fiddy]

Hey im just glad you didnt say " Lose My Number " lol

[Fiddy]

Omg I just did an emoji thing and there are so many to choose from …

@GameChanger

watch things better myself.

Ya I didnt see that @Pennywise mentioned things previously regarding temp etc…and had no clue the thread already had a touch of "drama " or anger lol…Have a great night , ttyl …hopefully he doesnt ream me when he wakes …im a bit scared to come back tmrw lol

[Sprkslfly]

@Rocky02852

You should have seen the Cat

Next time you make a crack like that, I’m mailing your dog to China with a bill of lading stating “dinner’s on Rocky”.

(kidding, of course) lol

[Dan_the_Man]

@GameChanger

Probably 90% of these concentrates we use were developed for the food and beverage businesses. They are commonly used for cooking and baking and candy making etc. How about that cup of coffee brewed 195 to 205 degrees with the same concentrates we vape and vape them at well over 400 F?

Very good point my friend. I actually do use my concentrates in cooking and in making flavored water which I also heat in order to “combine” the ingredients. My food is well over 150 F and the water too.
Just my observations I have not been educated nor have I done any research. Though, I think I’ll start looking a little more in depth on the topic.

150 F or 60 C really seems negligible to me.

I was under the impression that the issue was with nicotine but it appears I am wrong.

@woftam

I would go as far as saying that if you can taste lesser flavour then you are simply imagining it due to the fact that it is so ingrained in your brain that it is so.

That happens more than people may know. The brain is a powerful thing.

@woftam

At the end of the day, we mix for end result so at the end of the mixing if the e-liquid tastes good even if you heated it does it even matter if you did or didn’t lose .00000001% of the flavour molecules that you put in the mix.

Another good point

@GameChanger

This stuff has become like a religion to some and that’s a shame in itself because of the effect they have on others.

So very true.

@Fiddy

That I what I meant , plus I didn’t read entire thread , until after we interacted …one of my downfalls on forums is skimming then seeing something and not reading prior responses…Oh boy do I need to work on that

Me too dude, me too.

[Fiddy]

@Pennywise

I don’t work like that @Fiddy. We’ve been pals for a long time, and I have a very even keel.

Of course…i kow that , just being funny and we all know I’m the funniest guy around …

[Steampugs]

@Fiddy

and we all know I’m the funniest guy around

I 100% agree with this…

Or at least I would if I believed a word I said.

Which I don’t

[SessionDrummer]

@Sprkslfly

Next time you make a crack like that, I’m mailing your dog to China with a bill of lading stating “dinner’s on Rocky”.

#CatsRule …

[Rocky02852]

@Mjag

When I buy commercial juice on the rare occasion to clone or whatever I always buy it without nicotine. Have learned over the years that the 0 nic juice will stay good for years

Good tip ! I never thought of that !
Of course I can no longer buy flavored ejuice here due to FlavorBan in my state, still a great tip there

[Mjag]

Prior to the Game Changer I would mix testers that are long steepers like custards, tobaccos and creams with 0 nic. Not because a month or 2 steep is long enough to get the nic oxidized but being absent minded I would find bottles that are a 1 or 2 years old and not as good. Forget about the bottles I would leave in my car on a 100 degree day, 0 nic fine, 3mg blah

[NicotineNinja]

When you Cook food, does it lose its flavour…

[NicotineNinja]

@anon96069639 Do you know if VG’s viscosity changes when cold?

If heat makes it thinner and easier to work with, does cold do the opposite?

[woftam]

yes @NicotineNinja it does get thicker but does not freeze. My Nic is VG based and if I try to squeeze some out of the bottle straight out of the freezer the consistancy is not far off toothpaste

[NicotineNinja]

So for people mixing without heating any components should they keep their VG at room temperature? Would that be considered optimal?

[woftam]

VG in particular cold doesn’t change the viscosity of the flavours (unless VG based) or PG much at all if any

[NicotineNinja]

I’ve been mixing at 50/50 and initially the mix looks as thick as 70/30 until it all starts to homogenize

[Steampugs]

I always keep my VG at room temp…well…summer house temp, in the winter it’s a pig, I also have some VG Nic in the freezer and it’s like syrup, it’s a fucking pain in the ass to use so I usually have a bottle that I’ve decanted in the fridge, I do that anyway even if it’s PG, which it usually is.

[woftam]

I am a bit weird I guess I keep my VG at 30c (most of the time) I have a brewers heat pad (blue pad under the bottle) underneath it to keep it to temp. The reason for this is that I use a peristaltic pump to transfer VG (it measures the amount by time an will shut off after the pre-set amount is dispensed. Having the VG at a consistent temp is important for consistency (I still do it on the scales to confirm the correct weight).

It is a bit of a pain but it is easier than pouring out of a 25lt bottle and is much easier than breaking the 25 lt down into smaller bottles.