Covid-19 pandemic

and then on the other hand… I hear 99% of the time…
the covid…
it’s so bad here… all our hospitals are full…
they made us lock down again.
we can’t get together with neighbors and friends, I cant see my family…
next year will be better.
My ___________ died from covid.

I feel really bad for every one of us…

I feel if you eat right and keep your eye on your diet and what you do, get plenty of rest…
That by focusing on your vitamins and who you hang out with… How many are overweight?
Eating junk food and all…

I don’t know… but that damn China virus keeps mutating… some weaker, and some just as bad if not worse…

Compassion helps… just as well as cleaning up how you live…

I dunno… but I hear it a lot… covid.

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Viruses always become less bad, not worse. It’s a living organism with the same drive as any other life form, survival.
You don’t survive in a dead host. Coming back every year makes survival a lot more likely.
So they mutate to a less deadly form, like the AIDS virus has done.
If a virus becomes more deadly over time, it has been doctored.

They should do this stunt with cancer. New diagnoses every day, how many died, horrible pictures on tv of people with half a jaw, stoma’s, amputated limbs, gasping for breath on a ventilator on the ICU with lung cancer and so on.

Hospitals will be flooded with people wanting to be screened because they have felt a little swelling somewhere.
“Sorry ma’am, but it is only a mosquito bite.” “Are you sure doctor?” :scream:
This is a tactic that’s also know as psychological warfare. Unfortunately they have decided to wage that war against their own people and not some far away enemy.

Same here, but hospitals are basically empty. Nobody is really allowed in so how can we check.
I walk the dog for hours everyday, according to the news, I should be stumbling over dead bodies and sick people.
I still meet the same people that I met 10 months ago, all alive and kicking.

Sure people have died of this virus. The usual suspects that die of the flu.
I can’t remember that there’s every been one iota of attention payed to that.
Since we are on the subject of the flu, where is the flu?

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I love this guy :star_struck: he sounds like me, in the park, screaming at people to wake the fuck up :rofl:

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He is rather full of himself, but he does have a point.

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  • The assumption that unvaccinated people are viral factories for more dangerous variants is false
  • Just as antibiotics breed resistance in bacteria, vaccines put evolutionary pressure on viruses to speed up mutations and create more virulent and dangerous variants
  • Viruses mutate all the time, and if you have a vaccine that doesn’t block infection completely, then the virus will mutate to evade the immune response within that person. That is one of the distinct features of the COVID shots — they’re not designed to block infection. They allow infection to occur and at best lessen the symptoms of that infection
  • In an unvaccinated person, the virus does not encounter the same evolutionary pressure to mutate into something stronger. So, if SARS-CoV-2 does end up mutating into more lethal strains, then mass vaccination is most likely the driver
  • So far, SARS-CoV-2 variants are at most 0.3% different from the original Wuhan virus. Such minor variation means the virus will not present itself as a new virus. If you’ve recovered from COVID-19, your immune system will still recognize it

@Mikser

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Why am I hearing so much about Novavax right now?

In a recent Phase 1 trial, Novavax had a 96 percent efficacy rate against the B.1.1.7 variant, the most common COVID variant in the U.S… That’s slightly higher than the Phase 3 trials for both Pfizer and Moderna.

As Dery said and studies have shown, Novavax also appears to be highly effective (90 percent) against a mixture of variants, which is an increasing concern as the Delta variant spreads around the world. (To be fair, ongoing studies suggest that Moderna and Pfizer are also effective against new variants.)

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@Mikser, and, it comes. From our CDC …

This approach has never been documented and has raised questions and concerns among humanitarian partners who support response activities in these settings.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/global-covid-19/shielding-approach-humanitarian.html

What is the Shielding Approach?

The shielding approach aims to reduce the number of severe COVID-19 cases by limiting contact between individuals at higher risk of developing severe disease (“high-risk”) and the general population (“low-risk”). High-risk individuals would be temporarily relocated to safe or “green zones” established at the household, neighborhood, camp/sector or community level depending on the context and setting. They would have minimal contact with family members and other low-risk residents.

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https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/indiana-doctor-drops-vaccine-truth-bombs-on-school-board/

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https://health.usnews.com/doctors/daniel-stock-479689

PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT

Everything we are doing is wrong. Everything being recommended by the CDC is inconsistent with established Science and their own data. Masks are ineffective at preventing viral transmission, per the CDC’s and NIH’s own data.

We cannot make respiratory viruses disappear. They circulate all year, and they have animal reservoirs. Smallpox had no animal reservoirs.

Vaccination changes none of this. The current vaccine is causing anti-body mediated viral enhancement, which has happened for all coronaviruses.

Vaccines allow the virus to be come worse than it would with native infection.

75% of symptomatic COVID cases in Cape Cod were of fully-vaccinated individuals.

Therefore vaccinated and unvaccinated should be treated equally.

Vaccinated individuals are shedding virus. The vaccines don’t do exactly what you want them to do. These summer outbreaks are unusual, and being driven by the vaccinated. People who had COVID get no benefit at all from vaccination, and they get reactions to the vaccines at four to six times the previously uninfected.

Everything we are doing is wrong and unscientific.

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I scraped and uploaded Dr. Dan Stock’s video from YT, just in case it disappears.

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@woftam, you’re my go to guy for things like this. Has this been spun up ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1nPJZSO3Pk

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From all of the scientific word’s in this article, which tend toward being over my head…these two line’s got me to thinking about how many people actually know this, when getting the jab!

And here’s an important point: COVID-19 vaccines are NOT designed to prevent infection

A “successful” vaccine merely needs to reduce the severity of the symptoms

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I cant speak to truth or not as I have not seen this at all, I don’t really watch the TV news - but it is not happening where I am (Victoria). The quarantine facility is to replace hotel quarantine for returning overseas travellers or people coming from what they call red zones in other states.

Our governments are hell bent on a 0 covid case count which is just not a feasible thing. These lockdowns are killing more people than covid would. It has gone from flattening the curve to eradication and the steps they are taking are over the top. We are currently in lock down again and every lock down the rules become more draconian Victoria currently has a curfew 9pm to 5am how this helps stop the spread is beyond me.

I am well past angry about the damage our premier is causing to people and their livelihoods with his catchcall “on health advice”

Based on modelling of how many lives have been saved due to lockdowns vs the cost to small and medium businesses (not big business because they are getting looked after by the gov) it has been estimated that each life saved has cost somewhere in the order of 300 million in lost income.

Hey everyone’s life is special and valued but $300,000,000 per life is a ridiculous cost to small and medium businesses and many are going to the wall as a result.

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New South Wales is in a bit of strife as it is getting away from them.

But Victoria where I am has the harshest lock down with a fraction of the numbers

All the white is no cases yet locked down and curfew the light grey is for the most part 1 case

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Yep, the UK is proof of this as nearly the entire adult population has had at least one jab and nearly 75% both yet we are recording infections and deaths at the same rate as back in March, they are increasing and i reckon the next wave this autumn will probably be more deadly than the previous waves because it will start from a higher infection and death rate than the others.

In some ways the vaccines are making it worse because you are quite right they do not stop people getting or spreading covid at all but because many will have mild conditions maybe even no symptoms’ at all and the lack of social distancing and lockdowns because of the vaccine roll out it will just freely spread!

Another worrying factor is there are people who have even had both doses of the vaccine that are still getting seriously ill and even dying! on top of that they are saying everyone will need booster jabs in the autumn when people have already had two jabs in the last 3 months which tells me the vaccine gives some people slight immunity which doesn’t last long, they need to seriously work on a fit for purpose vaccine because the ones we have at the moment is like trying to patch up a ripper victim with a sticky plaster!

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Invaluable information @woftam, @Timwis.

Lost in ALL of this, is the fact that there are plentiful therapies, which are much less dangerous, and very effective in controlling the symptoms of this virus! Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, Monoclonal Antibodies, etc.
The following link returns two video’s, lengthy,but well worth the time…

https://www.infowars.com/posts/australian-citizen-issues-major-sos-to-the-world/

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so much mistrust it’s hard to know what to believe and the best course of action, you also get those who are in countries that haven’t had it bad who are Covid deniers or just play down the seriousness. But if they lived somewhere like the UK where everybody knows people who have died from Covid and it’s devastating effects they would soon change their tune! When it first started in the UK we had loads saying it was no worse than the flu blah blah, i personally knew people with this attitude who went on to die of Covid so they didn’t even get the chance of hindsight to realise they were talking out their arse!

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I hear what you’re saying, Tim, but the extent to which government’s are going, to get people injected, is throwing massive warning sign’s up for me, and many other’s. The ‘medicine’ , in many case’s, is turning out to be just as bad or worse than the disease.

I’m not denying that the virus exist’s, or even that it can kill…what concern’s me is the method that’s been adopted, nearly universally, to treat it, and all other option’s are being silenced! That make’s me ask question’s as to WHY!

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