What e-liquid are you mixing today?

You know, I never actually noticed that puke taste until someone mentioned it. After I found out that was all I could notice.

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@SessionDrummer, I can’t do cooling agents either not even in small amounts so you’re not on your own there mate. I’m not too sensitive to BA but I am to anything with Cyclotene in like TPA Ry4D, brown sugar and some of their caramel and maple flavours, it just tastes like burnt plastic to me.

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Hehe I hear you @JimmyLee. Right now, I’m testing another One-Shot from FLAVRZ, and I’m pretty sure there’s some in here, so …

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I like Iced salt juices from the store, I get 20mg and the cooling gets uncomfortable so I don’t forget I’m vaping high nic and start chain vaping like nuts and have a heart attack, like we all will if we got vaccinated if the cancer doesn’t catch us first… or both.

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The guys at monty python were all oxford graduates, other types of people that came from that school, HG Wells in particular, read the book called “Open Conspiracy”… It’s an intelligence ran school and a lot of those people I pointed out were openly freemasons…

Ask yourself, how did they know exactly how people are these days?

Because it was intended to be that way.

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Swiss Meringue!

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That’s a good print, what was your layer height? FDM or Filament?

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Been on a night shift mixing 20 of my recipes to send to my brother along with a Vapecige VTBox DNA 250C Mod!

A while back I put A Kiss theme on the mod for him and now it’s time to send with the e-liquids he asked for.

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Blueberry Bubbles!

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I need to buy the ingredients for this, it looks amazing: Honey Affogato - Netreality

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I have a question. When mixing MTL juice, do I have to use nic salts, or can I normal freebase nic instead?

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Any nicotine will work, you don’t have to use nic salts

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Some people like high percentage Freebase nicotine in MTL because it gives a nice throat hit, with salt nicotine it’s usually used in MTL devices so you’re not taking so much of it in at high percentages… Salts get absorbed a lot quicker and are really smooth, so it’s a way to regulate your consumption… The freebase is harsher but doesn’t get absorbed as quick and for the most part it’s just a different sensation.

I used high percentage freebase when I was craving the harsh throat tingle of a cigarette, but Salt Nic is when I have a craving for some nicotine, because it satiates quicker.

The strength will be the same of each, so mix accordingly but you can push the salt higher without too much discomfort. I don’t think you’d be able to vape 50mg Freebase like you can with Salt (but you also shouldn’t if you have blood pressure issues either) BUT it does give you a nice buzz first thing in the morning with salt nic at around 50, but you can still achieve a bit of that with 20mg as well.

For freebase they used to go as high as 24mg when I first started vaping around 2014 and let me tell ya, if you want a good cough session, that’s where you want to be. It’s all preference, but usually for myself a good throat hitting strength is 9mg, gives you the tickle while not taking too much away from the juice.

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In theory but in practice I found quite the opposite, with Nic Salts because they are so smooth people vape way too high nic than they need without realising. I only vape at 2mg with my own mixing or 3mg max and with freebase even if I try a 6mg I can tell the extra mg straight away and I’m coughing and the throat hit is just too much for me now I am use to 2mg. Yet I was sent some 20mg Nic salt liquids to test and I could vape them fine because they were so smooth but it wasn’t long before I was getting headaches and when I woke up after a sleep I felt terrible (way too much nicotine). A lot of these disposables from China are 50mg nic salts which people who need nowhere near that are happily vaping because they are so smooth getting people hooked on high nic levels. I do get that they absorb in the body more efficiently but the negatives outweigh that fact. If nic salts fell in line with freebase e-liquids in mg strengths and 20mg was the limit (but made in much lower strengths so only those that first switch from smoking to vaping actually used this higher strength) then they would be great!

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I just mixed a 3mg 60 40 juice with free base and put in my OXVA. I bumped up the flavors a bit. I like what came out of it. Still not a fan of MTL, but it keeps my GF happy because there os no bubble and pop like when I vape on my big boy mods.

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I prefer MTL but really even DL vapers should tame it when out and about around other people and consider others so always best to also have a MTL or lower wattage RDL set-up! No offence but I put vapers who cloud chuck in public in the same category as those who mess with their cars exhausts to make them sound like they are in a formula 1 race, they think they look cool but everyone else thinks selfish bellend, lol!

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A very true, and probably “by design” function of them IMO.

I personally cannot vape Salts, and have tried almost EVERY formulation, but they always lead to coughing fits. Soooo, all of the liters I picked up will be for customers who want it. I still MTL and DTL, and only use Freebase. I use 12-14mg for MTL, and 3mg for DTL.

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Yep definitely the 50mg and the lack of low strengths (a few do 10mg but most the lowest is 20mg) along with the manufacture in disposables are to get new customers hooked on nicotine to sell more product. Manufacturers tried to put up this front that they are the same as us and it’s all to do with helping people to quit smoking but then came along these disposables with high strength nic salts and manufacturers like Wotofo, Voopoo and many others are showing their true colours! The majority who use disposables have neither smoked or vaped previously!

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Yes, that’s why 50mg is still allowed in the States… It’s the same acid used in cigarettes that allows the nic to be absorbed when it hits your tongue, like the first morning smoke when you’d get a dopamine rush.

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