Alright @SthrnMixer, despite not homogenizing, 3, WAS indeed to orange heavy. Had thought the citrus would fade, and the creams would advance, but it was static. 4 is moving in the right direction. The orange portion is feeling good, but will boost the creams in 5.
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I havenāt read through the whole thread but VT orange tang is good option.
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just saw it aboveā¦ .
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Thank you @lukeloop. 
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@SthrnMixer, backing DOWN the orangey McOrange face again, in 5.
Orange CreamSicle Rm-5
| Ingredients | % |
|---|---|
| Juicy Orange - Capella | 0.85 |
| Mandarin (Tanger) - Flavour Art | 0.50 |
| Sweet Tangerine - Capella | 0.50 |
| Vanilla Ice Cream - Liquid Barn | 2.50 |
| Vanilla Swirl - The Perfumers Apprentice | 2.00 |
| Vienna Cream - Flavour Art | 2.00 |
Flavor total: 8.35%
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Get it? How low, can you go?
I really believe the closest recipe will have orange at a very low usage.
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Let me know how that turns out @SthrnMixer . Orange creamsicle has been an Achilles Heal of mine. it was what I wanted to make first, but I have never vaped one I like. with or without ws 23. 
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You can count on me NOT to use that. Iāve really tried hard to like cooling agents. I just canāt tolerate them more than a puff or three, then Iām good for weeks. Only exception ever has been a cucumber/mint vape but even with that, one day vaping it would cure me for a while.
Ideas floating around my head areā¦
Vienna Cream
Fresh Cream
Wee bit of LB Vanilla Ice Cream - say around 2%
The mandarin
Vanilla
Iāll try to get to it soon. But I think the key to success with this one will be to keep the orange slight in use, and let the cream be the star of the show. Weāll see.
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Yeps you got luckyā¦ I had one bottle of flavoringā¦ think it was a citrus tooā¦ left the rubber cap onā¦ and apparently it had an appearance of āgrowing rubberā literally looked like liquid back floaters, and they could ājiggleā in the flavoringā¦ I left it on my window sill for about a month, till it almost coated the insides.
This is one reason PET does hold the aroma molecules in place, howeverā¦ it is not as porous as hdpe.
It still is not the end all, PP is the best. Between PP and PETā¦ you have a shelf life of 6mo to 2-3 yrs, depending on how the flavoring is kept.
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I just posted one up @Tmease
try it out.
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About the same here, BUT, I never smoked menthols either.
Hmmmmm, that just looks good already ā¦
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Is there a orange candy type flavor out there? Or orange Sunkist soda type flavor should work.
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I think that would be damned close.
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@deerslayerās suggestion of Orange Sunkist soda type flavor is interesting. the popsicle does not have any carbonation type flavor, but ? Everyone has had such great ideas and options. Im sitting like a Deer in headlights. @SthrnMixer was mentioning closeness in mix#4 . I mixed up @SmokyBlueās citrus soda (Nice mix!) and am waiting on the steep. This project has turned out more challenging than I thought. with this many great minds-we gonna get this!! Thanks all
now, @SessionDrummer- that SteamCrave Advanced kitā¦ tell me about the mesh 
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The only Coolant Iāve used is Koolada TPA, up to 0.8% in mixes for other ppl, for my own use I use it very low at 1 drop per 15ml in fruit / citrus mixes and it works well for me, not so much as a coolant but just to make the fruits pop.
One on One has Orange Square Candy, they sent me a free sample, I havenāt solo tested it, but I used it in a recipe at low% and it was horrid
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Iāve had the sherbet covered ice cream/ice milk but alsoā¦and itās been a LOOOOONNNGGG time now, one that had that ice cream center, but the outer layer was more like orange ice, as in a frozen popsicle. Not creamy at all. The idea of Sunkist reminded me of that, and to the best of my recollection, that was exactly the flavor. The sherbet covered one (the one Iām focusing on here) is just so much softer a flavor. Thatās why Iām suggesting a really low usage of orange to make this right. At the same time, if there is a Sunkist flavor out there, it may be perfect. The amount of flavor used for this may be of vastly greater importance than the flavor itself.
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I donāt have most of these flavors. So doing what I can with what I have to work with.
Version 3 below I eliminated CAP Sweet Tangerine completely, going only with INW Shisha Orange. Made a 60ml batch per the notes, and this ended up being just 4 drops of the orange flavor for 60ml. Now let me tell you that the flavor is very, very close, but still a little too orange-forward at this point. Iām going to tap the brakes for a few days on this project and see how that orange plays out. If it weakens by a decent margin then I may be done for my own personal tastes. Otherwise, next batch will be reduced to 1 drop/60ml and work up from there. Getting closer!!
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