MTL Mixing – Where’s the Flavour?

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Hey folks,

I’ve been rocking DTL for years and whipping up recipes like a pro (or at least, I think so). But recently, I decided to take a little detour down the MTL trail and give my DVAWR MTL FL 24 a go. I mixed up a couple of my favourite DTL recipes, switched to 50/50 and 60/40 ratios, and… well, the flavour just isn’t hitting the same.

It’s not baaaad (see what I did there?), but it’s not nearly as bold or satisfying as what I’m used to. So, I’m wondering if I’m missing something or if this is just the nature of MTL:

  1. Do I need to crank up the flavour percentages, like you would for pod setups?
  2. Could I be using the DVAWR wrong? I’ve tinkered with airflow and wattage, but it still feels kinda muted.
  3. Should I expect the same flavour intensity from MTL, or is it just a different experience altogether?

Any tips or tricks from the herd? I’d love to hear how you mix for MTL or how you adjusted if you made the jump from DTL. Maybe I’ve been spoiled by the clouds, but I want to give MTL a proper shot!

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HiYa OG,

I am by no means an expert on MTL (but @Timwis might have some things to say), but last year I acquired a Kayfun X clone, an Ambition Mods Bi2hop, and an Oxva Arbiter Solo (which I reviewed). Each one of these has a different coil, but all ohmed out at 0.6 Ohms or higher, and I vape them all at 14-18 Watts, usually on DNA replay mode. You can see my Arbiter review here:

Oxva Arbiter Solo Review - Vaping Community

I recall my first experience was with the Arbiter Solo, and I was extremely impressed with the flavor. I tried a 60/40 VG/PG mix to help wicking, but initially had a small flooding problem. I added a little more VG to the mix, solved the flooding, and thereafter made my usual DL mix favorites exactly the same at my usual 70/30 VG/PG ratios. I’ve had excellent flavor results, but I’ve noticed one small thing. In the past Wayne Walker of DIYorDie has spoken on the subject of what he calls the flavor stage. Roughly quoting, some devices tend to “flatten” or “compress” the flavor stage. I actually found the video where he referenced this at about 6 minutes into the video:

Review: The Kayfun 5

I’ve made no changes to my mixes, but I’ve noticed this one small effect, though it’s not a huge difference to me. Perhaps you are sensing this, but regarding mixing, I’ve made no changes, and I get great flavor. I hope this helps a bit OG - good luck!

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@OldGoat, like @CaptainKirk said, @Timwis probably is the guy to ask. I have very few go to MTL recipes, and they’re typically very simple, and I did have to push the flavors up, to get better results.

Complex, and often times rich, creamy mixes don’t translate as well over MTL, at least in my experience. Simpler, and often times more fruit based mixes do, or have for me.

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