Modefined Lyra 200W Box Mod review by Mjag...Lost Vape quality?

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Thanks for taking the time to check out my review of the Modefined Lyra 200W Box Mod which was sent to me by the fine folks at www.healthcabin.net

Specs:

  • Temperature Limit: 2-600F/100- 300°C
  • 1.3” Full Colour Screen
  • Output power: 7Watts – 200Watts
  • Max charging current: 1A
  • Max output current: 39A
  • Output Voltage Range: 0.4-8.4V
  • Body material: Die Cast Zinc Alloy
  • Stainless steel 510 atomizer connector
  • Anodized Aluminum Faceplate
  • Spring loaded nickel plated brass center pin

STANDARD PACKAGE:

  • Lyra200W Device
  • Charging Cable
  • Lyra Gift Box
  • Lyra User Manual

5 color options: Amber-Silver, Amber-Black, Black-Silver, Black-Black, Black-Red

Getting to know the Lyra

Modefined is the sister company of Lost Vape, makers of fine DNA mods which a lot of people are fans of, myself included. The Lyra is there newest offering, coming on the heels of the Sirius and Prism.

I got the Amber-Black version and the body is said to be Ultem, looks like Ultem to me so I will go with that. The top plate is metal with a Stainless Steel 510 plate and Nickel plated Brass center pin, confirmed that when I took it apart to check out the 510:

Impressed with the 510, has a nice firm spring to it and makes a great connection with every tank I tried but the Stainless Plate is just a touch higher which makes 28mm tanks have a slight gap:

The mod has the smallest dimension at 30.7mm but the top plate is 28mm on the nose, 30mm tanks will have 1mm overhang for all us OCD types. The 510 plate is 24mm in diameter so 24mm tanks look just fine.

So do 25mm tanks.

4 buttons on the faceplate, fire, up/down and mode. All the buttons are nice and clicky and navigating the menu is easy but a bit tough to see when you want to make a change. For a large 1.3” full color screen they waste a lot of space on the large speedometer and the fonts can be real small, what is worse is they turn to red when selected to make a change.

Doesn’t look bad in that pic as it is zoomed in but out in the sunlight and it being so small it can be tough to read when it goes from white to red. I am hoping they come out with a firmware update to make the fonts bigger and not red, it’s a waste of so much screen space.

The battery door is a big improvement over the Sirius, locking tab with a nice spring to it and easy to use.

On the front faceplate there is a…not sure what it is but it feels nice with a texture to it that is pleasant. Starts with the mode button and ends at the top of the USB and I feel adds to the overall look of the mod.

The Lyra definitely feels solid aside from the Ultem body, yeah, it feels plastic but aside from that no rattles and really put together well. The looks are subjective, I am sure some will love or hate it, I am not blown away by the looks but don’t hate it either. If it was a little wider to accommodate 30mm tanks I would like it a lot more, the G Class and Smoant Cylon are just about right for me.

I do not read or view reviews of products I am working on but did run across a thread about the sparking issue Jai Haze had with the Lyra on his pre-production version. I did test this myself with the final release version I have and did get a spark when touching the 510 pin and threads with a metal tweezers. It was small though and the mod still functioned perfectly after doing it 3 or 4 times. Modefined did post a video about it and Jai Haze seems satisfied, you can find the video here:

https://youtu.be/juYdcqvm0MA

Power Performance

You only have 2 options, Power and Bypass which will give you a mech style vape based on the available power in the batteries. I don’t generally use the bypass function, I have mechs for that so didn’t test it. Power seemed fine, in fact a little hot when comparing to a DNA mod set to 200 watts. I was able to get a dry hit with the same TFV12 tank quicker with the Lyra than the DNA250C mod. I don’t know if Anthony Vapes or DJLSB have tested the output of the Lyra but it definitely seemed to run a little hot for me full out. I wish VapinWally (@SmilingOgre on the forums) was my neighbor, I would have him tested it out for me, the man knows his stuff too.
Overall the power mode performance was good and it hits right away, no lag. No preheat options but it wasn’t something I missed since it sparked up the coil so quickly.

TC Performance

With most simple SS316L builds the TC was enjoyable, some a little hot by 10 to 20F but overall not bad. I did have a build using dual SS316L triple core fused claptons using 3x30g core with a 38g wrap that I use a lot but the Lyra fired it HOT, 50 to 60F hot. I had to go into the TCR mode and lower it to 085 until I finally got good results. That build works perfectly on my DNA and Yihi mods, same tank and all so that was odd.
There is a limit on the power in TC mode, 100 watts max. There is an auto function for TC mode but that seems to set it too low for my tastes. The 100 watt limit sucks, not going to be running my huge SS Alien build on this mod, that likes power and doesn’t make sense to limit it to only 100 watts, big con in my book.

For the most part the Lyra read ohms close, 0.01 low at most with lower ohm builds below 0.50. Higher ohms in the 0.50 to 0.80 range didn’t fare as well, sometimes at much as 0.05 off. This can have an effect on TC so keep that in mind.

If you are into simple spaced SS builds then the TC can be very good if you tinker a bit. It was smooth and prevented dry hits for the most part, sometimes you had to lower the temp but not with every build. The Lyra would not be a mod I would recommend for TC due to the inconsistencies I ran into but if you like to tinker you can get it to work well.

Battery Life and Charging

One thing I kept on noticing was how frequently I had to change batteries. I tend to vape at higher wattages from time to time but even lower it just felt like I was going through batteries quicker than normal. Resetting the puff counter I installed a fresh set of Sony VTC5A’s and began vaping at 80 watts with a Ehpro Billow X and a 0.14 ohm build. I timed the length of my draws and averaged them out to about 3.5 seconds each. I got 169 puffs before I got the change batteries warning and could not take another puff. That pretty much equals 10 minutes of vapetime, not the worst but not great. Checking the batteries voltage after I measured 3.43V each. I also checked the volts after using a tank all day at around 45 watts and came up with 3.4 and 3.49V. This does give me flashbacks to the Smoant Battlestar, love that mod but feels like you are going through batteries quick.

Now I’m going to bring up up charging which I don’t recommend on mods, better to use an external charger. I only bring it up though as the Lyra lacks pass-through charging, if it is plugged in then no vape for you. That did bug me as when I had it on the road the batteries would not last the whole day. It is only 1 amp charging too boot, cmon, no pass through at least give me 2 amp. Went through nic withdrawals when I didn’t bring another mod or extra batteries with me. I almost resorted to dripping juice on my tongue…well ok, maybe I did…don’t judge.

Pros:

  • Good power performance
  • Comfortable to hold
  • Great battery door
  • Solid 510
  • Nice and clicky buttons
  • Holds up to 28mm tanks with no overhang
  • Overall solid build

Cons:

  • Battery life is a little lacking
  • 100 watt limit in TC
  • No pass through charging
  • Some of the text is so small it is really hard to see
  • TC can be finicky
  • 1 amp charging

Final Thoughts

I am a critical bastard but I would take the Modefined Lyra over a Smok mod everyday of the week. The build quality would be my main reason for doing so, it is a solid mod. Sure I wish it was a little wider to accommodate a 30mm tank. I am hoping they issue a firmware update to make the screen fonts easier to see, a waste of such a big screen IMO. The lack of pass through charging is a big con for those with long commutes, they lost a sale for sure with a friend of mine who commutes an hour each way.

If it was my only mod I could deal with the cons, I enjoy using it. It is a comfortable mod to hold, what I like best about it. You will just have to make up your own mind if this mod is right for you and I hope I have provided enough info so you can make an informed decision.

Thanks to www.healthcabin.net for providing the Modefined Lyra for review. They do have an active coupon: lyra10 which lowers the price to $47.79 but ends on May 30, 2018 so act quick. You can find that deal here: Lost Vape Modefined Lyra 200W Box Mod

Check out how this stacks up to other tasty gear and meet the Steampugs team of reviewers. Your bound to have a good time and read up on some great products, not so great ones too http://www.steampugs.co.uk/

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Stellar review! I feel like I’ve been using it for a week myself. Very interesting design choices on this one. Are they testing the market? Looking for a niche? Are they seeing different trends than I am? Your one statement rings home for me. I would rather have a solid, well designed device than a disposable with every whistle and bell available. Oh and yes, I would love to live next door and give it run through the lab. Hopefully one of the other reviewers will toss it on a scope.

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Excellent review my man. FTR my iPV8 is 28mm wide on the dot with a bezeled top edge. That 1mm overhang wasn’t a worry to my OCD self, so I bet this thing would host a 30mm atty without issue. Good looking device. Now, if someone made a squonker that had a cool look like that… Excellent review!

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Thank ya you good hearted Ogre! This is why I like your reviews so much, gives me that data I crave so I wish you had one to run through your tests to let me know what is happening at 200 watts.

Thanks @anon96380778, I did try a 30mm on it but the overhang got the best of me, sort of like a waif supermodel with a big lollipop head…just wasn’t right :smiley: I agree though, a squonk would be sweet!

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Beautiful job sweet :ok_hand::tada:

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Thank you my dear :hugs:

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You hit the nail on the head there, there products can vary so much you wonder how they can be under the same umbrella.

Another example would be Think Vape, of course there DNA mods work fine but the Exus mod using there own chip doesn’t work in TC at all.

I definitely wouldn’t by the Lyra for it’s TC abilities as stated in the review but I still stand behind the fact that I would get this over a Smok mod. That is not a ringing endorsement though considering how many Smok mods fail, that is like comparing any car to a Yugo :wink:

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That is going to be interesting, wonder how Replay will be received by the masses, I know a couple of YT reviewers who are power users are going gaga over it. I like Replay in the limited time I have spent with it but if you already have a great TC setup it is not revolutionary, feels more like a path for power users to get into TC with ease. In that respect I think it will be a hit, really does give a power mode type consistent draw while mitigating any dry hits, pretty much what we get when we TC with a good setup.

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I kinda think we are all lookin at the same thing here. It seems they are following the Lost Vape theme of “do what you do well”. Again, I’d love to look at the electrical characteristics to see how well regulated it is in vw, but it would seem it is doing a pretty good job. This may just be aimed at the ~ fifty buck, don’t use TC crowd. It will be interesting how many folks in that 90% crowd bypass it just because the feature list is shorter than say the S word.

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Funny, i have a totally different perspective of replay. Don’t mistake me, I’m not trying to sell my perspective but it is different. I see replay as a totally VW experience. It vapes like a SS coil in VW mode. No temperature leveling, no ceiling on temperature beyond how I have the power set. What it does do is gives me that same VW vape regardless of how cold or hot the atty is. It does also prevent dry hits which admittedly has always been a TC feature. I have no idea how well it will be accepted. I’ve always liked the “B” side of every 45.

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I will defer to your wisdom on Replay, I have admittedly only used it a day and a half at most due to vacation and trying to catch up on my review que.

I did enjoy the results I got with my Juggerknot RTA using SS430 clapton’s using replay, much more than just straight SS430 TC. That tank and wire combo can be troublesome but the Replay just made it easy.

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Right from the horses mouth, great vid, thanks for posting :beers:

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Great review, cheers! :smile:

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I totally don’t understand what it is about dry hits that people enjoy so much. :crazy_face:

I mean seriously…I get that most folks who vape frequently do learn to “sense” when the atty is beginning to run dry (there are distinctive telltale signs, if one pays attention). But even the most astute of observers can (and have been) distracted on occasion, forgetting that they were low, and BAM. Instant nastiness slaps them in the face. Along with ruined cotton that may have had additional life left, had the user made different choices (starting with use of TC).

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So sorry to hear about your dog, I know the feeling and pain

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Thank you grubs and thanks for putting up this great forum!

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Wow, sorry to hear about your loss.

I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion that the Ogre is “right”. We all have a different lens but the observations are all still valid. This thing is definitely keeping track of resistance variation along with I don’t know what.

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I think it is because most people try TC with an inferior mod and think it sucks, there right it does suck when not done right. My first experiences with TC sucked but I listened to those in the know and and gave it another shot and was hooked. I remember a friend trying out my setup and after I told him that was TC, he was surprised, thought it was power mode. Whenever he tried TC he hated it, choppy and hardly any vapor but when setup right be loved it and bought a Yihi after that.

I love to use a dripper in TC, when I want to change flavors just vape the cotton bone white and switch.

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My experience exactly. Tried TC on a few of my first mods and wondered why they included it. It was useless. They I stumbled across a Q mini ml class for sixty bucks at a b&m. I had seen it online and knew it went for two hundred consistently. I snagged it just for that reason. For some reason I gave TC a shot with it. Whole new world.

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Sorry for your loss.

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