Tried the needles, they just bent. I have 2 sets of jewelers screw drivers, (Wife got a set for me for Christmas, and so did I) but still no joy.
@Letitia mentioned the batteries should not be out of sync, and as of now, one battery is 44% and the other is 56%. I replaced the batteries that came with it with the same make and model, but again, no joy.
Cars in the shop today. Bad coolant pump but for a limited time only, it’s costing me $1,375!
Soon as it’s done, I’ll pick up a new mod.
Do you have any 21700 batteries?
I don’t know what Smok errors are. There are ‘no atomizer’ on DNA mods and probably others.
2 different atty’s, neither working, I’d be looking at the mod.
Got the car back and went to our new 3rd smoke shop in town. Kid knew what an RDA is. All the sell is Smock, but I picked up a Morph 2. He said the Morph 3 was out but he likes the version 2 better. TOP air flow, too.
Now I just gotta find a magnifying glass with a bright light around it.
I tend to use firebolt for quick wicking.
Cotton bacon is good and easy to manipulate. But, my favourite to use is Fuzion, it’s heat resistant so lasts longer and has the best flavour, in my opinion.
I’m not sure on where you can find Cotton Bacon or Fuzion Cotton in the US though. 
I found Cotton bacon on Amazon. Should be here tomorrow. I’m just worried that if I add salt it’ll absorb it too much, and it won’t render enough fat to fry my eggs in.
I’ll have to look harder for the fuzion. Shockingly, I asked Amazon for wicking cotton and came up with a bunch! Even some shoe laces.
Thanks!
Now, I was having problems with my Smok mod. The one where the, uh, “pin” was stuck in too low, and the batteries were discharging at different rates?
All they sell in this town are Smok products and I picked up the Morph 2. Kid said he likes it better than v. 3.
Kid knows what flavors I like and handed me some oatmeal cookie dipped in milk topped with brown sugar. 3% nic. Don’t recall if it’s fb or salt. but I told him I found nic’s to be harsh. Figured at 3 %, how bad could it be?
Filled 'er up, went in for dinner came out and coughed up a lung. Again. Can’t even take a proper mtl, no matter the af.
Ah, yes… Cotton Bacon — the most famous underperformer in vaping. It’s like the fast food of wicking: available everywhere, convenient as hell, and only tastes right once you’ve burned off that delightful eau de cotton farm. Give it a few pulls and it’ll stop tasting like you’re vaping a towel from the gym.
As for that 3% nic? Yeah, that’s freebase, my friend. The kind of stuff that’ll give your throat a roundhouse kick if you’re not expecting it — especially in a sub-ohm tank. If you’re still hacking up a lung, I’d wager it has less to do with the juice and more to do with the side of cigar ash you’re pairing it with.
Also, if you ever do manage to fry your eggs in Cotton Bacon, please post pics. I’ll send you a Goat of the Year award.
Sounds like you’re figuring it all out as you go, like most of us did. Shoelace cotton’s fine to start with, and Cotton Bacon works once you get past the first few hits. That 3% juice is probably freebase , it hits way rougher than salts on something like the Morph 2.
Thank, guys. I also have some “Organic Cotton Silver” and “Cut Cotton Ecru”.
What I don’t get it that when I was young and naive, making juice with no nic, I had no problems. Other than wanting some nic!
What think y’all of this recipe?
Too many flavors at too low percentages?
Pretty sure I stole it from someone. That was all the way back in March. Guess I should start giving credit where due. That way I don’t have to reply on the squeaky gears replacing my brain cells.
Ah yes, the mystery of the vanishing lungs — classic. You’re on 3mg freebase, still puffing cigars, and now wondering why your RDA’s making you cough? Sounds like your throat’s waving a little white flag, mate.
To be clear though: I’m not suggesting nic salts. That’d be like pouring diesel into a Ferrari — salts and RDAs do not play nice. They’re meant for low-power pod systems, not your lung-rattling setup.
As for the recipe — can’t say much without seeing it. But yeah, too many flavours at low percentages can turn your mix into a whispery mess. Nothing really stands out, and everything just sort of muddies together.
Drop the recipe when you get a chance. We’ll take it apart and see if it needs a tweak… or an exorcism.
Well, I highlighted it, I did the Crtl C… Forgot the Ctrl V.
|Nicotine:|0.30|0.34|1.50|
|PG:|1.35|1.40|6.75|
|VG:|13.85|17.46|69.25|
|Total Base:|15.50|19.21|77.50|
|Custard Cream - Capella|0.60|0.60|3.00|
|Madagascar (Vanilla Classic) - Flavour Art|0.60|0.60|3.00|
|Malted Milk (Conc) - The Flavor Apprentice|0.80|0.80|4.00|
|Milk Chocolate - The Flavor Apprentice|0.40|0.40|2.00|
|Sweetener - Flavor West|0.40|0.40|1.00|
|Vanilla Bean Ice Cream - The Flavor Apprentice|1.00|1.00|5.00|
|Whipped Cream - The Flavor Apprentice|0.70|0.70|3.50|
|Total Flavour:|4.50|4.50|22.50|
FB, not salts.
Using my new Smok Morph 2. No RDA. It pushed some 510 pin into the mod and it said it had a short. Even when I put the tank back on.
What I don’t get. Couple years ago, I was vaping OTC brown sugar at 6%. NO problems. Lovin’ it! Then Ca. decided they don’t care if I get cancer and left me with shit only. That’s when I looked into making my own.
Early FebRuary.
I had 3 pods of differing ohms/watts, thinking I’d learn some good stuff. Only thing I learned is that I can’t make juice.
Hey Pualy. Solid recipe you have there, 22.5% flavouring, packed with custards, creams, milk, and a hint of chocolate. But you say it vaped flat, lacking the richness and depth you’d expect. Here’s why it happened:
1. Too Many Creams, Not Enough ContrastThe mix includes:
They all do similar things. Instead of layering up, they blur into one bland custardy blob. It’s like adding six types of milk to your coffee — eventually, it’s just… milk.
TIP: Stick to 2 or 3 complementary creams. Let one be the star, one support it, and one add character if needed.
2. Weak ChocolateMilk Chocolate (TFA) is infamously subtle and a bit plastic at lower percentages. At 2%, it’s barely noticeable under all those creams.
TIP: Boost it to 3–4% or switch to something richer like Chocolate Mousse (SSA). Even better — combine chocolates for complexity.
3. It’s Sweet… But Still Boring?Even with 1% sweetener (FW), the juice lacks pop. Why? Because sweetness alone can’t carry a recipe. You need flavour contrast and texture.
TIP: Add warmth (brown sugar, light caramel), texture (acetyl pyrazine), or sharp edges (a punchy vanilla). Balance is key.
The Old Goat’s FixHere’s how I’d rework it:
| Ingredient | % |
|---|---|
| VBIC (TFA) | 4.00 |
| Custard Cream (CAP) | 3.00 |
| Malted Milk (TFA) | 1.00 |
| Chocolate Mousse (SSA) | 2.00 |
| Madagascar Vanilla (FA) | 0.50 |
| Brown Sugar (TFA) | 0.50 |
| Acetyl Pyrazine | 0.30 |
| Super Sweet (CAP) | 0.50 |
Total Flavour: ~12–13%
Still creamy and rich, but now it has definition, punch and soul.
Yeah @OldGoat I have made PLENTY of those !!!
Trust me, I have stepped into that trap so many times myself.
Often times it’s funny how GOOD something looks on paper, but in reality …
No chocolate mousse or Acetyl Pyrazine. I can see how mousse would be creamy… I have a couple types of nuts in my stash to substitute the Pyrazine, maybe? Ooh, ooh! Hazelnut! Wouldn’t that lend a little punch? Or too much contrast? I also have glamour chocolate and white chocolate.
Can you access my flavoUr stash, and whip up a couple plans with what I have? Or adjust a couple of the better looking?
Looks good on paper!
Thanks guys.
[Edit] I want malted milk as the primary flavor. Cant I go to say, 2.25%?
Hey Pauly, glad you’re digging into this one!
Based on your feedback — no chocolate mousse, no AP, but malted milk as the star — I reworked the original into two versions that should stay true to your intent but lean into the warm, creamy malted vibe you’re after.
Pauly’s Dream Cream – V1 (Nutty & Malty)
This version leans into hazelnut to replace the toastiness AP would’ve brought, while giving that warm backnote that plays great with malt.
Recipe:
Malted Milk (TFA) – 2.25%
Custard Cream (CAP) – 2.50%
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (TFA) – 4.00%
Hazelnut (FA or FW) – 0.75%
Brown Sugar (TFA) – 0.75%
Madagascar Vanilla (FA) – 0.50%
Super Sweet (CAP) – 0.50%
Total Flavour: 11.25%
Warm, creamy, with a subtle nutty body that gives it that “just roasted” vibe.
Pauly’s Dream Cream – V2 (White Chocolate Body)
If you’re looking for no nut, this one’s all about soft, milky richness with a smooth finish. White chocolate brings thickness and sweet creaminess without the cocoa punch.
Recipe:
Malted Milk (TFA) – 2.25%
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (TFA) – 4.00%
Custard Cream (CAP) – 2.50%
White Chocolate (INW or LB) – 1.50%
Brown Sugar (TFA) – 0.75%
Madagascar Vanilla (FA) – 0.50%
Super Sweet (CAP) – 0.50%
Total Flavour: 12%
It’s a rich malt milkshake with velvet cream notes. Think old-school soda fountain dessert.
Let either of these steep a good 5–7 days and let us know which version hits that old Brown Sugar vibe best. Once we’ve got a winner, we’ll brand it up proper. 
Cheers!
I’ma make 'em today!
Thanks!