Haven’t really seen Purilum or Flavor Revolution either one around the normal places.
That’s also part of why I didn’t dive too deeply into them. It always makes me nervous when I can only get something at one place… My luck has all too frequently been “fall in love” with something, only to have it quickly become NLA. /sigh
NR are the Nth American Distributor of Purilum and everyone gets supply from them . I did get a quote to buy direct but the MOQ was 5 gallons and the price was $185 per gallon. NR has fucked me over with this one as well.
As i said to NR over on ELR I will never again develop a recipe using Purilum since they will not guarantee supply. The fact that they are the sole distro in Nth America means that everyone has their nuts in a vice and has to buy from NR. I am not sure if Purlium would even direct supply another Nth American merchant. I had a conversation with Edmond Nelson (Tripp) over at purilum about all of this and there is nothing he will do about it - (I even suggested dropping purilum’s MOQ on the flavours that NR were cutting I got nowhere)
Na Purilum has been around for quite a bit longer than NR (I believe). The original NR house flavours were all Pur bar a couple. I have been meaning to drop Tripp another question and ask if the MOQ of 5 gal all had to be the same flavour or not.
I would have thought that NR moving to a bigger warehouse would mean more flavour lines not less. They are also dropping a few businesses who they used to do fulfillment for (ejuices.com being the biggest one)
100mg/ml in VG mainly because they will ship to Au where others will only ship 48mg.
There is a massive list that NR are discontinuing and they have said there will be a sale but who wants to wait till they may not be able to get their fav flav.
Here is the list of flavors being discontinued by NR. Now i am not sure if they will still be available since they did say they were being discontinued from their website (they may be available if you were to call em i dont know).
Chocolate Coconut Almond
Dulce de Leche Caramel
DX Banana Foster
DX Cinnamon Danish
DX Coconut Candy
DX Pralines and Cream
DX Red Velvet
French Vanilla II
Kalua and Cream
Maraschino Cherry PG
Pralines and Cream
Strawberry Organic Compliant
Thin Mint Cookie
Brazilian Habano Viso
Butter Rum Cavendish
Wonder Super Concentrates
Lemon Lime Soda
Ripe Galia Melon
Sweet and Sour Purple Drink
If you can wait, I’m sure they will announce a Christmas sale code soon enough. At least since they are just in Oklahoma, your transport time won’t be much. If degrading nicotine is sometimes the result of long transit times as I’ve heard before.
I will post and tag you in as soon as I get an email code from them.
I am not entirely sure but when I first started using salts I found that the VG did oxidize slower than the PG (both were still much much slower than freebase). If I were to guess I would say viscosity but it would only be a guess. Keep in mind that most salts will start off with a slight yellow tinge (not all) the pg salts I have used in the past were a lot darker in colour than the VG so it may just be a miss conception that they oxidize faster.
Nicotine Salicylate (Salicylic acid salts) are more likely to have a slight brown colour than Nicotine Benzoate (Benzoic acid salts). Both will have a slight odour in the bottle (almost musty) but cannot be detected after mixing.
Good to know.
Been prepping for some wandering through the Cheesecake arena (though don’t have FA yet. And I would not have made any kind of connection to ice cream, with FA Bavarian, so good to know as well!
Ice cream has been a bitch for me, as I get pepper from TFA’s VBIC, Cap’s was ok (but vanilla heavy), and I wasn’t impressed at all with LB’s that everyone raves about (both too high in percentage requirements, as well as lackluster profile.)
VTA hasn’t worked out well for me, thanks to the throat hit in most of the ones that I’ve tried (which doesn’t steep out, regardless of time). And FA has had a tendency to disappoint with their frequent addition of lemon to things it just doesn’t belong in (with my American, but “fairly well” traveled palate). Outside of that, FA just doesn’t seem to be a good fit for me (with rare exception).
Lately I’ve begun to see that I lean towards Cap for many of my “staple basics”, Ina for quite a few, several FLV favorites, and that’s the primaries it seems.
I have found a couple nice surprises among the NF line, some TFA, and a very few FW. But I’ve been dabbling in WF, and the occasional Hangsen or Jungle Flavors.
How are you all using PUR Ambrosia? I have had it for a while and love the smell but get more orange in a mix, only tried it 2 times so far, once in a standalone 6% and the other in a mix at 3%, the latter being my favorite but in that mix I just get orange instead of the pineapple smell I get direct from the concentrate. No other fruits in that mix as well, just some creams and a little marshmallow to smooth it out and add a little more sweetness.
As far as LB Ice Cream it has made its way into 3 of my most popular mixes but most of them around 2.5%, only 1 at 4% but given a good 2 week steep the creaminess really comes through. It is definitely a flavor that needs other flavors to round it out but I have been going through it like crazy lately.
@anon96069639 I like the LB Root Beer too and pretty potent, only 1.5% really makes for a delicious RB Float. I got a sample of the FLV Root Beer at the LV show mixed at 2%, really good as well but I will stick with the LB RB, just as potent and tasty IMO and a lot cheaper.
Gonna be ordering on Monday for the clearance flavors. Luckily there are not a lot of Pur flavors I use but it sucks for @woftam that NR is the only distro and now he is stuck.
Any flavors on the list that are staples or worth a try?
Might just be Ambrosia isn’t falling into my preferred flavor profile at the moment but that changes from month to month. Right now I am on a coconut and bakery or dessert kick, fruits or candies not so much right now except for the occasional pineapple and strawberry.
Gonna take your advice and try it with an added coconut and pineapple to boost those flavors. Love the idea of using Vanillin to boost an ice cream, have had it for a while but never used it much.
FLV is crazy potent, I made a recipe with less than 1.5% total flavoring using 5 FLV flavors and damn, it is strong. 1 flavor is just 1 drop in 30ml and it is coming through, the most drops for a single flavor is FLV Custard at 10 drops per 30ml and that was probably too much.