Mesh - how much better is it?

I watch vape mail and hand check closely and see the trend towards mesh replacing our DIY coils. This raises several questions so I thought I’d ask. @Jim22 's recent comments about the Kylin M has my fingers on the “place order” button but I keep hesitating. I don’t doubt his experience or evaluation for a second. My hesitation comes from:

  1. If the mesh is far superior what am I to do with the ton of tanks and RDA’s I have? I normally have 10 or so tanks and mods going with my " buffet" style of vaping. (I have a LOT more than 10)

  2. The mesh is a far lower resistance than I normally use. I target .4 or .5. How much will I need to adjust my mixes…or will I?

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I don’t necessarily see mesh as better or superior but just different. I like it a lot and of course thought a lot more people would like it as much as I do. Not the case at all.

When I smoked, I would sometimes like a good cigar. I didn’t have any intention of giving up cigarettes, just liked something also delicious but different. My uncle loves good single malt scotch but sometimes imbibes in a premium vodka.

So my feeling about mesh at this point is that it has come a long way, is really good on the Kylin M, but I still use my traditional coil RDAs and RTAs all the time. Its a great addition to my vape collection and now good enough that I use it regularly, but at this point its not replacing traditional coils for me.

As far as mixing… just recently I have been running through my head that I should try altering some of my favorite recipes and tailor them to mesh. Mesh seems to amplify sweet, sour and fruits. I don’t know how it does with coffee, teas, custards etc… So after my next Nic Riv order, I will try straight fruit mixes or with very small amounts of additives. I mostly mix at 70/30 but have used 80/20 in the Kylin M and had no problems at all.

Like everything with vaping, you will have to try it, decide if you like it and if it has a place in your vape life.

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Like @Jim22 said it is not necessarily better, just different. Not gonna replace my traditional tanks but I do really enjoy mesh as well. It can be a dry vape and wicking is much more critical with mesh than traditional coils. Depending on how I wick it can be dry or a little spit and moist, I try to get it in between.

The mesh used makes a big difference as well, the OFRF mesh is good but I have always preferred the Vandy Vape SS316L 200 mesh even if vaping in power mode. I just got the new OFRF SS mesh so going to rebuild both my Profile RDA, one with the VV 200 SS and the other with the OFRF SS and do a comparison for an upcoming review.

Like Jim mentioned the mesh seems to excell with fruit vapes. I have a strawberry/peach cream that tastes so much better in the Profile RTA than my traditional tanks. More brighter with the mesh, more laid back in a traditional RTA.

Might be best to start with the Profile RDA than either the Kylin M or Profile RTA, the RDA is an easier wick. The RTA’S take some time to get the wicking right, I saw Daniel DJLSB vapes say it took him 3 weeks to finally nail the wicking on the Profile RTA. For me it took 3 or 4 wicks to nail the Profile RTA, found rayon to wick the best. The RDA on the other hand was much quicker to get wicked right.

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I have to agree that I have started switching to mesh.
Started with the Profile then the Profile Unity, now I have just received the Damn Vape Doom, and am totally impressed.
I have also been using the VV 316L 200 and am running all of them in TC.
Yes, I also still have the coil RDA’s running, but find that I reach for the mesh tanks and RDA’s more frequently.
Flavour is different in that it seems to enhance the complementary flavours, rather that just the main profile.
As long as you pack sufficient wicking under the mesh, I’m using plain old Muji.
I don’t try to thread the cotton through the mesh, but rather after glowing the mesh, I release one side and take a fat roll of cotton, place it under the mesh and holding it all down with a finger, fasten the other side of the mesh in place, wet it thoroughly and Bob’s your uncle.
YMMV but it works for me.

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Whoa, how does it compare to the Profile RTA? Been thinking to try it and your comments may have pushed me to do so.

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Personally I prefer the Doom, I’m loving the flavour using the VV SS316L, the draw suits me fine, and I found it quite easy to mesh and wick.
Admittedly I have only just received it, and am on my first build, but thus far I’m loving it.
To be fair the Profile is an amazing tank, but I think the Doom just pips it for flavour breadth.

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Good to hear, gonna order one up👍 Thank you for the follow up.

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I’d be interested in your opinion too. :smile:

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I of course would never know until I tried them so I ordered a couple. I’m sometimes a frugal old bastard and spending money takes a crowbar. :rofl: I went with the Kylin M because of the top air flow and other reviews. I have a dozen Kylin minis but they weep and leak (only when I fill them) so the top airflow sold me. Thanks for the info and I’ll let you know how I like them.:smile:

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Heh now I get to add @G-Fog to my enablers blame list. Just ordered the Doom because of you. Ok I was planning to order it anyways but it just feels right passing the blame to someone else :innocent:

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Haha @Jim22 I can live with that :smile: I don’t think you will be disappointed though.

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I blame @G-Fog too, he is a sneaky enabler, I don’t even know how it happened but got a confirmation of an order for (2) Doom RTA :thinking: Maybe Gary has this mind meld thing going on?

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Be afraid, be very afraid :rofl:

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giphy

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I got my Kylin’s today and tried using their aggletted (?) cotton. No way could I get it in so I used your method with some cotton bacon. Works great but no way did I use as much cotton as came with it. I’m getting a nice vape and am at 55W with the .2.

The Kylin M comes with .15 and .2 mesh. Can someone tell me what it is made of. I want to try TC if its stainless. If not where can I buy stainless mesh?

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Its Kanthal that comes with the Kylin M. Vandy Vape makes rolls of Stainless mesh that you will have to cut to size. OFRF is making SS mesh strips but I am not sure they have hit the market yet.

A lot of places carry it, the consensus seems to be the 316 200 size:

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Thanks. I guess I should have checked where I bought them. First impressions are very good. I’m trying a favorite juice in a Kylin mini with Replay, and the same juice in the M. The flavor while slightly different is much more intense with the mesh. Very nice.:+1:

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I have been testing the OFRF SS mesh vs the VV 200 SS and the results have been pretty good so far. Was going to include it in my OFRF mesh subohm tank review but gonna do a separate review instead. So far they are pretty close, the VV has a slight edge in flavor, should be expected as it burns through juice faster so far. The OFRF has been a more consistent TC vape though, have to drop the VV to about 390f where as the OFRF does a lot better at my normal 430f. Just a little more testing, have the OFRF in my Kylin M as well but yeah, they are really close, good problem to have

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I don’t have the Kylin M so am not sure on the correct wicking for it, however on other mesh units I have actually used my wicking method with two agleted pieces of cotton together, which worked very well.
Personally I prefer the Muji pads, and use most of a sheet in a Scottish roll style.
That is just what suits me though :smile:

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