Lost Vape Hyperion

The watts set “should” be the maximum watts used. The mod does not obey that limit. If you look at the temp control curve I posted, it put out 80 some watts at the beginning of the puff. But that still leaves that odd step ramp and 50ms delay unexplained.

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I’ve never seen that before (not adhering to the ‘set watts’ value)

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It surprised me too. Every DNA I’ve tested does this. Replay is the biggest offender. If you save a puff after you have warmed up the atty with previous puffs and let the atty get cold, replay will slam the beginning of the vape to try to recreate the saved ramp up. The only way to see it that I know of is put it on a scope.

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That’s the ‘warmth’ value. Turn that down to 1 (or a lower value) and it will take an extra puff or two to warm up. But the regular boost punch is still in effect.

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@SmilingOgre, I really enjoyed this mod review. You do such thorough in depth testing and come across so calm and collected in your videos it’s just a pleasure, thanks :call_me_hand:

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Entirely my pleasure. You are welcome. I thank you for the watch and I’m glad you enjoyed it.

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I’ve got this next two weeks off with only a weekend trip to Sweetwater next weekend. I’ll muck around a bit more in escribe and see if I can find anything. No promises. … Thinking about it, the folks at Evolve have been super cool in communicating, so maybe I’ll send them a pick of the graph and see what they have to say.

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@SmilingOgre I would NOT be able to control myself there.

:slight_smile:

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:rofl: My buddies might have to haul me home in a straight jacket. Ya never know.

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I get that but I think we are coming at this from two different directions.

You choose replay.
You take one puff. Let’s say it’s at .5Ω cold.
You take a second puff. It now starts at .52Ω
You take a third puff. It now starts at .54Ω
You press the select button and you are now in play.
You let the atty cool back down to .5Ω
You take a puff and the mod tries to recreate the puff starting at .54Ω and in doing so uses a high start voltage to recreate the saved ramp. The resulting voltage from this start up will produce a wattage far above the max set wattage.

I hope that is more clear.

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Just for you Ogre. Here’s the setup from escribe. Note the warmth value is set at 1.


Now here’s a bunch o’ puffs, replay set at the 3rd puff, then one afterwards. You can tell these were back to back as the blue resistance line keeps starting higher.

Then I waited 20 minutes to have a puff. Here are the results. The peak watts jumped from ~75 to ~76. You can see that blue resistance low like the first puff.

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That’s what I’m trying to tell you. Their stats do not gibe with my test results. All of those values shown are calculated values. Only voltage can be observed directly real time. Ammeters, resistance meters, and wattage meters are all reading voltage with a fixed resistance to make the calculation or conversion. I can go into puff info at any time and see what the chip set says and it never gibes with actual testing on a O-scope. Even their graph shows conclusively that mod does not adhere to the max wattage set by the user. I’ve also played extensively with escribe and understand it’s limitations.

Now,

At the end of the day, Evolv is arguably the best chipset out there and regardless of all of our consternation, it still provides an excellent vape. You will excuse me but it’s time to move on from this. If your intent is to be “right” please feel free with my blessings.

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