I was trying to deep dive on those figures today @Mikser but ran short on time. The decline in the immune response was staggering to say the least. What I am UN-familiar with, is the “UK PHE VSR” which I need to do more research on.
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I believe it is an actual medical term for an illness that defies any vaccine. Every vaccine has failures but I would hesitate to call the covid injection a vaccine.
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To better clarify my point, here’s what I keep hearing ABOUT the vaccine.
We need to vaccinate the unvaccinated, to protect THE vaccinated ??
Is anyone else laughing at this ?
So if you are vaccinated, you are still at great risk ??
What’s the vaccine doing again ?
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And you would be correct Sir.
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I’m double “vaccinated” and it’s the same as the flu jab, it doesn’t stop you getting it but your immune system has a better chance of fighting it off, rather than you becoming seriously ill / dying
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I dont doubt that the jab reduces the severity of covid with the current strains - the problem I have is what comes next
a) When there are new strains?
b) What are the effects in 1 year/10 years/ 20 years?
The governments have no clue, the scientists can probably guess (but a guess is still a guess and hey expert guesses are never wrong right?). They are all lying that all will be good & it is the fact they they are lying and a lot of people know they are lying including themselves that makes my piss boil.
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I have never had the flu jab - a few years ago everyone I know that got it got the flu and I skated by even tho I worked closely with them. It may appear I am anti vax I most certainly am not. I have always been pro choice.
I drew a parallel with my mother the other day, all the people that are pro choice on pregnancy termination should also be pro choice on vaccination (I know the outcome is completely different) but the banning of a medical procedure is really quite similar to the forcing of a medical procedure - no elected official (or anyone else for that matter) has any right to force/ban a medical procedure on another human’s body.
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So, no matter the number of article’s read, or video’s watched, about the pro’s and con’s of getting jabbed, for me it alway’s come’s full circle…right back to WHY have they chosen this as their(proverbial) hill to die on? What is the REAL reason that various local, and national governments have chosen to literally villify substantial number’s of their citizenry, threatening their freedom’s, and liberties with(up to, and including) banishment from society for not getting this injection?
I don’t profess to know all the answer’s, but I’ve alway’s questioned authority…and what better time to do so than now, when an irreversible potion which is only starting to provide feedback on it’s safety, and efficacy is being administered worldwide, under threat of some form of punishment for not doing so.
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That’s actually THE BIG POINT @woftam (and I know YOU know this), but many others may not, or may have missed it, in all the smoke and mirrors.
Actually Simon, over here in the US, your point ^^^^ is EXACTLY the issue. They CAN’T, and neither can our “President”.
The mandate relies on a little-used provision of a 1970 law:
“The Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970 authorizes the secretary of the US Department of Labor to implement emergency rules , without the formal notice and comment process, when “employees are exposed to grave danger from exposure to substances or agents determined to be toxic or physically harmful or from new hazards.” [emphasis added]”
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This happened yesterday
TLDR
Speaking at a press conference on Wednesday, the Chief Minister said frontline and public facing workers will be required to get their first dose of a COVID-19 jab by November 12 and their second dose by December 24.
Those who fail to comply with the direction will not be permitted to attend their workplace and could be slapped with a $5,000 fine.
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@woftam (and others), I’m not saying this IS it, but I’ve been hearing more, and more mentions of Revelation 13:17.
There are ALL orders of people screaming that this IS the mark, others screaming it’s not, and another group not screaming, but saying this may be a prep FOR the mark.
The vaccination cards are a symbol of submission. Submission to fear. Submission to social pressure. Submission to tyrants. The prophetic mark of the Beast is all about submission. But, while the vaccine cards are not the mark of the Beast, they are clearly used in the same way. (See also- How to Identify the Mark of the Beast)
“ No man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark ” (Revelation 13:17). In many places you cannot access certain businesses or services, unless you carry the vaccine card. You cannot go to work unless you comply. You cannot run a business unless you enforce compliance. You must submit to these rules if you want to buy or sell. (See also- How to Prepare For the Great Tribulation)
It appears that some type of national, or international ID may soon accompany the forced immunizations. The cheap card-stock vaccine cards now being used to prove compliance, are intended to be replaced by a more permanent, and more globally accepted card. (See also- Covid- Oozing Toward the Mark of the Beast)
Any international vaccination card would most likely be authorized by some global entity. The vaccination cards (not the vaccine itself) would then be a symbol of submission to that global entity.
An international vaccination card would be an international ID system. A workable global ID system is necessary in order to implement the Mark of the Beast.
It should be crystal clear to everyone, that the Covid-19 pandemic is a trial run for something more oppressive. Many Christians believe the progressive oppression by power-grabbing politicians is a prelude to the oppression and persecution by the Antichrist and his beast-kingdom. At the very least, it is clear that corrupt politicians are testing how far they can go, and how much they can get away with. We should, in every way possible, use these milder acts of tyranny as our own test run. We should use this coronavirus oppression as a test to see how to adapt and survive. Even Christians who firmly believe they will be raptured before the Antichrist comes upon the world scene, must understand that the world will progressively push us into the tyranny and oppression that sets the stage for the Antichrist and the Mark of the Beast.
Now again, I’m not saying it IS, or ISN’T, or is even a prep FOR the mark, just stating what’s floating out around on the interwebs …
It should be crystal clear to everyone, that the Covid-19 pandemic is a trial run for something more oppressive. Many Christians believe the progressive oppression by power-grabbing politicians is a prelude to the oppression and persecution by the Antichrist and his beast-kingdom.
Reference:
I didn’t invent the rabbit hole, I just fell into it …
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I’ll work to further your trip DOWN the rabbit hole. Take along a vape, it might be a long ride …
10 Reasons It’s Not a Mask, It’s a Muzzle
2020-08-04 thecomingtribulation coronavirus
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A mask prevents the spread of bacteria, but it does nothing to prevent the spread of a virus because the microscopic droplets are too small. Not even a medical mask can stop a virus. And your cheapy made-in-China face covering, with a bread tie to form fit your nose, is completely useless.
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A muzzle is an object placed over the mouth and nose to control an animal. Citizens are being commanded when and where to wear their muzzles, and what they can do while wearing them.
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A mask prevents the wearer from touching his face and spreading disease, though touching the mask defeats this purpose.
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A muzzle restrains the animal. A muzzle is a no-choice, no-option requirement, and this one is being imposed, under threat of punishment, by a great many politicians and businesses.
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A mask filters contaminants from being inhaled, but when a mask gets contaminated, you will breath in that contamination as you continue to breath.
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A muzzle prevents the animal from expressing anger through speech or action. As stated in America’s Fall In Prophecy, Americans meekly obey our oppressors out of fear, which is a result of turning from God.
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Masks are effective, for their designed purpose, for only about 20 minutes, until they become saturated with moisture from breathing.
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A muzzle is placed on an animal so it won’t be seen or heard. The one who has control of your muzzle is the one who has control of your actions.
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The Surgeon General, the CDC, the WHO, as well as a great many experts, do not recommend wearing a mask during this pandemic, and say they can actually increase your risk of infection. ONLY politicians, and medical politicians, demand that we wear masks.
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A muzzle brings the animal into submission. The unconstitutional actions, by governors and mayors, (shutting down businesses and churches, etc.) have indirectly sparked riots, looting, and increased crime. Lawlessness always breeds lawlessness. While most of this lawlessness is condoned by the lawless politicians, and activist media, they don’t want the “other side” to join in. They are trying to muzzle us into submission.
It’s all about submission. Wear it proudly, animal.
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The Mask is a Warning From God
2020-07-21 thecomingtribulation Uncategorized
When Jerusalem was besieged by the Romans in 70 AD, leading to the slaughter of over a million Jews, the Christians inside the city heeded the warning of Jesus (Luke 21:20-24), and escaped when there was an opportunity. While most Christians believe these verses refer to the end-times, the siege of Jerusalem was definitely a foreshadow. In the same way (as I have constantly harped), the Covid-19 response by politicians is a foreshadow of how the Antichrist will operate. And, the mask is now being used in the same way as the Antichrist and false prophet will use the mark of the Beast. If we don’t heed the warnings we are getting now, we may be sealing our own fate.
As I mentioned in a previous post (The Mask is the Mark of the Beast. Almost.), the mask is a nothing more or less than a symbol of submission. Despite the fact that there is no evidence that masks do anything to prevent the spread of a virus (they prevent the spread of bacteria, not viruses), politicians, medical politicians, and the media are constantly demanding that we wear them. Add to this the fact that numerous scientific studies actually prove they do absolutely no good in preventing viral infections, and that wearing them improperly, or wearing substandard masks (the ones we are told to wear) actually increases the risk of viral infection. It becomes clearly evident that the true purpose of mask mandates are to drive people into compliance of tyranny.
You will practice social distancing. You will walk in one direction at stores. You will contain yourself at home. You will wear a mask. You will accept the vaccination. You will accept the mark of the beast.
Individuals who don’t make a firm commitment, now, to resist tyranny, will meekly accept the mark of the beast. Our life of tomorrow is determined by our actions of today. It is the small stepping stones of the present that lead us to victory in the future. If we won’t stand against some moronic mayor or governor, now, how can we hope to resist Satan’s champion, of whom the world says (Revelation 13:4), “ Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him ”?
One further note- various prophecies show that the Antichrist will not have the same level of authority throughout the world. While the beast-kingdom will control the entire world, it will do so by varying levels of oppression. The countries that meekly accept tyranny now, will most likely be the most oppressed by the Antichrist.
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Lighten the mood, for a moment…I’m assuming the guy holding the phone is the one who went to the counter to place the request 
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LOL @whthek
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@Dardy just posted this on ELR, and it’s very interesting.
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You know how sometime’s during conversation with a friend, we’ll talk about, and joke how we’ve solved all the world’s problem’s…Well, with this treatment we’re up to about 5 or 6 effective(available) therapies that have nothing to do with hospitalization, or injection’s, or CDC guideline’s. In fact, I believe if the Tony Fauci’s of the medical industry were to tell us the damn truth, this disease would likely be a thing of the past already.
Amazing info, @SessionDrummer 
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Agreed @whthek, I was REALLY glad @Dardy posted that up, as I’d never heard of it before. Just goes to show, “You don’t know, what you DON’T know”.
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