This dovetails with the ongoing thread about homogenization which branched off into discussion of additives and emulsifiers used to disperse and infuse flavorings in VG. When I ran across the following I was searching for information which would further confirm my statements/beliefs about VG being a poor solvent and flavor carrier.
Most of the following is taken from threads found @ https://www.reddit.com/r/Deeper_DIY/
Deeper DIY: Triethyl Citrate – the new e-liquid emulsifier?
Triethyl Citrate (TEC) is a chemical in Dragonfruit and claimed to make fruits “pop.” It is an emulsifier and claimed to facilitate this. It is used in combination with Triacetin (TRI) by TFA in the following flavors; highest in Strawberry @ 10%:
Dulce de Leche
It is sold by TPA and is pretty cheap. It is claimed to be useful as a flavorless diluent which can be used in place of water, PG, and Ethyl Alcohol in VG. It should not be used with or stored in plastic.
I found other related threads.
The evils of VG as a carrier https://www.reddit.com/r/Deeper_DIY/comments/2zu6wr/the_evils_of_vg_as_a_carrier/
OP: “So lengthy testing over the past 3 weeks has made me realize why so few people [are] offering flavors in VG: it just is a poor carrier. At room temperature, I am lucky to dissolve 1% of a chem that easily dissolves at 10% in PG or 15+% in EA.”
[–]NudeNicotine “VG is an extremely crappy solvent that is why you see us utilizing a portion of ethyl alcohol in our co-solvent ratio for concentrated flavorings and stock solutions. Depends on the polarity of the stock solution in question, but I have only been able to achieve 5 to 6 % max of some solutions in VG.”
Throughout these old threads the usage of homogenizers is mentioned. From other reading, most or all of them are now using them. However, for the PG sensitive mixer, these chemicals could be very helpful. There was a lot of interest, and then the subject kind of died.
Anyone using TEC and TRI (magic mask by fa, and is a main ingredient of mts vape
wizard by fa, smooth by tpa, and flavor toner/enhancer by fw) and would like to share info, it would be appreciated.
I did find this repetitive claim several places:
Triethyl Citrate- Sold by tpa. This is an emulsifier used to make essential
oils water soluable. It is used by fa, tpa, inw, fw, cap, hs, and just about every
flavor company everywhere. It is used in most popular flavors. This is the “secret
ingredient” that turns oil soluables into water soluables, if you know how to use
it. think of it as “the flavorer’s stone”, sought after to turn crap flavors into